Top 10 Electricians in Union City, CA

Porch Pro Headshot Maine Home Services
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
(1,869)
"Numerous positive customer reviews attest to the exceptional quality of services provided by MHS. Homeowners praise their professionalism, attention to detail, and commitment to customer satisfaction. MHS has consistently earned high ratings on platforms such as Google and Facebook."
"Numerous positive customer reviews attest to the exceptional quality of services provided by MHS. Homeowners praise their professionalism, attention to detail, and commitment to customer satisfaction. MHS has consistently earned high ratings on platforms such as Google and Facebook."
Porch Pro Headshot Quick Electric Service
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
(97)
We are a family owned local business with over 20 years of experience located in Hayward, California. Besides quality work, our goal is Customer Satisfaction and as a result of our hard work, in 2014 and 2015 the company won the "Pulse of the city" Award For Excellence in Customer Satisfaction.
We are a family owned local business with over 20 years of experience located in Hayward, California. Besides quality work, our goal is Customer Satisfaction and as a result of our hard work, in 2014 and 2015 the company won the "Pulse of the city" Award For Excellence in Customer Satisfaction.
Porch Pro Headshot A Quality Construction
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
(91)
"A quality construction renovated 2 bedrooms and jack and Jill bathroom. The remodeling was one of the largest that I did for a long time. A good recommendation from a neighbor and a research about them, made me hire them for that work. In general, I spoke and dealt with Moses. Moses did a remarkabl...Read more about A Quality Construction
"A quality construction renovated 2 bedrooms and jack and Jill bathroom. The remodeling was one of the largest that I did for a long time. A good recommendation from a neighbor and a research about them, made me hire them for that work. In general, I spoke and dealt with Moses. Moses did a remarkabl...Read more about A Quality Construction
Porch Pro Headshot Mister Sparky
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
(70)
Independently owned and operated, we fix the problem right the first time and provide our customers with a 100% satisfaction GUARANTEE. We do it with convenience, courteousness, competence, cleanliness and character and our customers' time is our #1 priority. The Mister Sparky on-time guarantee is ...Read more about Mister Sparky
Independently owned and operated, we fix the problem right the first time and provide our customers with a 100% satisfaction GUARANTEE. We do it with convenience, courteousness, competence, cleanliness and character and our customers' time is our #1 priority. The Mister Sparky on-time guarantee is ...Read more about Mister Sparky
Porch Pro Headshot MDE Electric Company
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
(20)
Serving the Bay Area since 1973 At MDE Electric Company we are an experienced and highly-recommended contractor serving the needs of residential and commercial properties. We're specialists in the service and installation of electrical systems, and have a comprehensive knowledge of new technologies...Read more about MDE Electric Company
Serving the Bay Area since 1973 At MDE Electric Company we are an experienced and highly-recommended contractor serving the needs of residential and commercial properties. We're specialists in the service and installation of electrical systems, and have a comprehensive knowledge of new technologies...Read more about MDE Electric Company
Porch Pro Headshot Garcia Drywall
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
(33)
"Came on a Weekend and was very professional, finished same day great experience, if you are looking for a drywall patched, stop looking Juan is the guy for the job, I wouldnt hesitate in rehiring him for other patches."
"Came on a Weekend and was very professional, finished same day great experience, if you are looking for a drywall patched, stop looking Juan is the guy for the job, I wouldnt hesitate in rehiring him for other patches."
Porch Pro Headshot Lions Gate Electric
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
(4)
Lions Gate Electric is a fully licensed and insured electrical company and we are here to help provide exceptional customer service for the residents Solano County, the Bay Area and surrounding areas. Our team of expert electricians is dedicated to the principal of providing exceptional service to o...Read more about Lions Gate Electric
Lions Gate Electric is a fully licensed and insured electrical company and we are here to help provide exceptional customer service for the residents Solano County, the Bay Area and surrounding areas. Our team of expert electricians is dedicated to the principal of providing exceptional service to o...Read more about Lions Gate Electric
Porch Pro Headshot IMM Development Inc.
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
(7)
""i normally don't write reviews but this time i felt i have to, we Just finished working with imm development on a remodel of a kitchen and 2 bathrooms we super happy with the results. Meir and Asaf (his assistance) Both of them are professional, direct, and very responsive. They are extremely res...Read more about IMM Development Inc.
""i normally don't write reviews but this time i felt i have to, we Just finished working with imm development on a remodel of a kitchen and 2 bathrooms we super happy with the results. Meir and Asaf (his assistance) Both of them are professional, direct, and very responsive. They are extremely res...Read more about IMM Development Inc.
Porch Pro Headshot Got Watts Electric
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
(34)
Serving the Concord, Pleasant Hill, Martinez, Walnut Creek, Danville, Lafayette, Orinda, Moraga, and surrounding areas. "Your reliable electrician!" Commercial, and residential 24 Hour Emergency service available! Service Panel upgrades Sub Panel Upgrades Whole House Fans by QuietCool Parking lot...Read more about Got Watts Electric
Serving the Concord, Pleasant Hill, Martinez, Walnut Creek, Danville, Lafayette, Orinda, Moraga, and surrounding areas. "Your reliable electrician!" Commercial, and residential 24 Hour Emergency service available! Service Panel upgrades Sub Panel Upgrades Whole House Fans by QuietCool Parking lot...Read more about Got Watts Electric
Porch Pro Headshot FAUSTO ELECTRIC
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
(51)
We offer friendly tips,on time service,and competitive quotes. -- A whole house fan will help keep your home well ventilated, without even using your AC, big $$ savings. -- Worried about your electric bill on the rise?, give us a call. We can offer many ideas to save energy. -- No nee...Read more about FAUSTO ELECTRIC
We offer friendly tips,on time service,and competitive quotes. -- A whole house fan will help keep your home well ventilated, without even using your AC, big $$ savings. -- Worried about your electric bill on the rise?, give us a call. We can offer many ideas to save energy. -- No nee...Read more about FAUSTO ELECTRIC

Frequently asked questions about electricians

An electrician repairs, designs, installs, and maintains electrical systems. There are different types of electricians to choose from, like those who specialize in residential electrical or those who work outdoors. Residential electricians work inside the home to solve wiring problems or do installs. Electricians who work outdoors focus more on the construction of buildings and the systems needed for those projects. Quality electricians tend to be critical thinkers.

Electrical contractors are responsible for planning electrical systems in new buildings, including outlets, lighting fixtures, and ventilation. They install wiring, lighting, and electrical systems according to the municipal code. This also includes installing hangers and brackets to support electrical systems. They read and interpret blueprints and circuit diagrams. They perform maintenance and inspections of these systems. Electricians also repair or upgrade faulty systems, including removing the faults.

Electricians need to go through a trades program specializing in the field. It takes over 2,000 hours, or four years, of hands-on experience in most states before an electrician is licensed and able to work independently. This number can increase for journeymen electricians or if the electrician wants to work on commercial projects. Some states require these tradesmen to pass an exam or receive certification. Beyond acquiring a license, electricians also need to have insurance. This protects the electrician’s equipment, tools and vehicles, and also insures them if something goes wrong.

When you think, “I don’t know any electricians near me,” don’t worry — Porch has you covered. All you need to provide is your ZIP code, contact details, and a description of the project involved, and Porch will match you with a qualified professional. They vet the contractors for you, so you can spend your time where it’s needed most.When you search for an electrician, it’s important to know what the job costs on average before contacting someone. From there, a simple Google search will give you the necessary information, but be sure to read reviews on the contractor before hiring anyone. You can sort reviews by the most recent first and see what people have been saying. A great contractor will have a high number of reviews, and maintain an average of 4.5 stars. Always ask the electrician about their licenses, how they bill, their estimated turnaround time, and whether they specialize in a specific type of job.Before you bring on a profession, check your appliances on other outlets to rule out faulty machines, and double-check that the breakers are on. The most common reasons to hire electricians are flickering lighting or faulty light switches (or if either of the two buzzes when activated). The circuit breaker could have an arc fault or trip whenever a specific appliance runs. Some circuit breakers are outdated, or the wires weren’t designed for the amount of power running through them. Hiring an electrical contractor is a great idea if you have an abnormally high electric bill or want more outlets in the home. A contractor will help you plan the best places for new outlets in the most efficient way possible.

An electrician generally costs between $60 to $100 per hour. The cost of an electrician will depend greatly upon the job, where you live, and what type of professional you hire. Higher costs of living and greater licensing fees also drive the price up. All that said, electrical work can be dangerous. A professional knows how to do the job safely, and they’re up to date on rules and regulations. There are several instances where an electrician may be needed. Common jobs are creating new outlets or light switches, installing phone lines and basic light fixtures, upgrading breakers and electrical circuits, fixing the wiring, installing a home generator, or even automating the home.

On average, a new light switch costs $125, and basic light fixtures cost between $80 to $200. Outlet installations can range from $200 to $750, while breakers and electrical panel installations range from $100 to $1,500. Adding a new phone line costs roughly $700, and recessed lighting costs roughly $800. Upgrading your electrical circuit can cost between $1,300 to $3,000, and installing new wiring can be anywhere from $1,200 to $18,000. Automating your home could cost between $5,000 to $9,000 while installing a generator costs around $2,000 to $10,000.

Some of these prices vary so wildly because no two homes are alike. An outlet that requires running wires through various rooms will cost more than a house where the wiring is simple and accessible. Old homes are harder to work with, and their electrical systems can be outdated. When you get a quote from a professional, be sure to ask him the reasons for the pricing. Materials cost more depending on where you live, which affects prices.

A switched outlet is a power outlet turned on or off via a switch. A variation of this is a half-hot outlet, or a duplex outlet, where the top plug is always ready to provide electricity, whereas the bottom plug doesn’t provide electricity unless you flip a switch. A ground fault circuit interrupter (GFCI) outlet can’t accomplish half-hot — it must be fully active or only run via a switch.

Before you do anything, turn the power off. If you’re modifying an existing outlet that’s more than a few years old, you might want to replace the outlet. Your outlet needs to match the amperage of your breaker. If your breaker puts out 20 amps, your outlet needs to be capable of handling exactly that. To prep the switch outlet, you’ll need to take the faceplate off and break the tab connecting the two brass screw-plates. Don’t break the one connecting the two silver screws.

In a nutshell, your hot and neutral wires (black and white, respectively) will both go to the switch. You’ll run a 14-3 wire from the box to the switch. You’ll need to pigtail the hotline and cap them with a marrette. Connect the pigtail and the remaining black wire to the outlet. Connect the neutral wire to the silver terminal on the other side. Each line has a copper line, which needs to be grounded to the grounding screw. Electrical work needs to be done correctly to work safely. If you’re uncertain about what you are doing, we highly recommend hiring an electrician. Electricity can cause a lot of damage if done incorrectly, and what seems like a simple task is often best left to professionals.

Outlet installations can cost, on average, $300. This price can be lower or significantly higher, depending on the job, location, and special features you need. Most of this cost goes to labor and ensures the job is done safely. A GFCI outlet will cost more to install, as materials are more expensive and more labor is involved.

Most outlets are generally cheap in terms of materials. A standard 120V outlet can be purchased for $4.00 on average. 2-Prong, 3-Prong, and higher voltage outlets (220V, 240V, 250V) range between $5.00 to $20.00 on the high end. A GFCI outlet, on average, is close to $20. Floor and smart outlets are more versatile, costing an average of $40.

If you want your electrician to replace the outlets, you expect a charge of around $55 per hour — but a skilled local electrician could replace as many as twelve outlets in a single hour. Installing new outlets takes up to two hours, depending on the location. Remember that you’ll also pay for the materials and wiring for new outlets, so these jobs cost roughly $150 to $225 per installation.

Many factors alter your costs. If your existing wiring is up to code and already in place, this will lower your costs. On the flip side, your costs will increase if your outlet is in a difficult location or needs more wiring, your costs will increase. If you need outlets to run large appliances, such as a dryer, or installing GFCI outlets, you’ll have a higher cost due to the expensive materials and the job’s complexity. Electricity is hazardous, and a professional is licensed and insured for the job. Beyond simply switching plate covers, it’s a good idea to hire an electrician.

The easy answer is yes, you can do some basic residential electrical work without a license. This answer varies state by state, so double-check regulations where you live. You can replace outlets, light switches, and even light fixtures. Regular switches are easy to replace with dimmer switches, and light fixtures are simple enough to replace with a ceiling fan. Other simple repairs include replacing a fuse or breaker inside an electrical panel. You can replace bathroom fans, hardwired smoke detectors, and appliances or install low-voltage outdoor lighting on your own.

Remember to cut the power before doing any electrical work. Most of these jobs require basic tools. For simple replacements, you can wire the new outlets or switches just as the old ones were. If you’re upgrading them, be certain to read and follow the directions. Replacing fuses and smoke detectors are quick and easy jobs, but replacing a breaker in your electrical panel is more complicated. Be cautious if you need to do this, as it’s often a sign of something wrong in the electrical system. It may be more efficient and effective in the long run to bring in a professional if there are underlying problems.

Not all residential electrical jobs can be done unlicensed. You’ll need a license if you want to upgrade or relocate your panel or upgrade to a 200 amp service. This is also true if you’re adding a new breaker or circuit or running new wiring for an outlet or switch. If you need to add a subpanel, you’ll also need to be licensed. For most electrical work, it’s imperative to stick with a professional if you’re uncomfortable or don’t understand the work. Electricity is dangerous, and you want to prioritize your health, your family’s health, and your home’s safety. Your local electricians will ensure the job is done correctly, which is worth every penny for the peace of mind.

Recent reviews for Union City Electricians

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I was replacing light switches and outlets, when i got to a three-way switch that was wired incorrectly by previous homeowner. When I went to reconnect the new switch, I created a short. After calling 3 other electricians Lions Gate Electric was the only ...

- Tony Carvalho
57526

As a new home owner i was facing a challenge when i realised that my house needed to be rewired and the service panel needed to be upgraded. After few quotes from different electricians, Quick Electric was refereed to me by a friend. They are really profe...

- romeo roman
111269

We recently completed to remodel our first floor at our home. After our massive research, meetings and interviews, we decided to hire A Quality Construction to oversee and do the remodeling project. They couldn’t have been more skilled, hardworking, profe...

- Neil Outley
103149

A Quality Construction did a great remodeling job at our house when we were eager to remodel our bathroom and kitchen. They were in touch with us during the whole remodeling process and Sol was very professional and extremely knowledgeable!! He knew exact...

- Valentin Bluel
101745

The team of professionals from A Quality Construction were fantastic. During the work that they did at my house, I could see that they are detail oriented, hardworking and skilled. I have used A Quality Construction services for a kitchen and bathroom rem...

- Thomas Call
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A Quality Construction did an excellent job refinishing the hardwood floors in my home. They were able to remove years of wear and tear, leaving behind floors that look brand new. I'm thrilled with the results!!!

- Violet Stein
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A Quality Construction's dedication to safety is evident in every project they undertake. Their commitment to following industry standards and protocols ensures a secure and reliable electrical system for your home!!!

- Violet Stein
112463

Before I will write what my kitchen has become, I will write down some summaries about the company with my experience. In total I had scheduled 5 meetings with several people from A Quality Construction. All the people came on time and on the day it was s...

- Kimberly Ranah
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We hired Colin from A Quality Construction to remodel our bathroom and we were happy that they were able to stick on budget and not to pass it, on top of it, they communicated well and they did a great work. In our master bathroom, Colin and his workers t...

- Jerrilynne Glavaris
97542

We saw a work that was performed by A quality construction at a friend’s house. After calling them, I decided to schedule a meeting with them and to see what they can do in order to remodel my kitchen. The meeting went smoothly and I met with Colin. Colin...

- Rebecca Talley
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I hired A Quality Construction for my kitchen remodeling and my experience with them was more than excellent. They are very high quality people, super easy to work with, very skilled and honest. I will hire them again for any construction project that I m...

- Joseph Jacowitz
110708

A quality construction is an excellent one-stop shop for mainly excellent design, great help in selecting final materials/accessories and mainly for any complete home remodeling. Our master bathroom and kitchen needed to be completely demolished and redes...

- Catharine Barbarito

Everything You Need to Know About Union City Electricians

I have Electrical Services work that I need done in Union City. What should my budget be?

Our data on recent electrician projects in Union City shows that larger electrical services projects in city are often upwards of $189.00. However, this price depends on a number of factors. Cost can increase or decrease based on any/all of the following:

  • Location: electricians travel time may factor into the budget.
  • Cost of materials. This is an important factor of your electrical services project budget. You can purchase materials yourself, but remember that your electrician professional maybe be able to leverage relationships with other companies to save on material costs.
  • Company ratings: Highly-rated electricians tend to be more expensive. Decide what balance between ratings and cost is right for you.

As always, every project is different and you should contact multiple electricians throughout Union City to ensure your project is done right.

Who are the best Electricians in Union City?

We've found 350 electrician providers that are available to you in Union City.

Keep in mind that every project has different requirements, and some electrician professionals maybe be more equipped to handle the specifications of your electrical services work than others. Talk to multiple electricians before deciding which one is right for you. You will want to consider how much they charge, if they are properly licensed for electrical services work in Union City, and if your project is a fit. Here are some suggested professionals and companies to get you started:

  • Main Stream Electric
    • Average Electricians project cost: $189.00
    • Location: Union City
  • Limon Electric
    • Average Electricians project cost: $189.00
    • Location: Union City
  • Tesla Electric Solutions
    • Average Electricians project cost: $189.00
    • Location: Union City

Will Electrical Services work in Union City require permits, inspections, special licenses, etc.?

Whether you’re electrician job is in Union City or any other city, you're going to want to do a bit of research before hiring electricians. Even small jobs may have certain regulations around them. Often, the electrician performing the work will have any required permits, inspections, etc. under control, but not always. Short answer: Research yourself and double check with the electrical services folks that everything is in order.

All Electricians in Union City, CA

Porch Pro Headshot BACH Enterprises
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
(25)
We offer exceptional air conditioning and heating services at the best possible pricing and provide products which will bring our customers nothing less than complete satisfaction. And when your family's health, safety, and comfort are involved, that means peace of mind. From the most complex instal...Read more about BACH Enterprises
We offer exceptional air conditioning and heating services at the best possible pricing and provide products which will bring our customers nothing less than complete satisfaction. And when your family's health, safety, and comfort are involved, that means peace of mind. From the most complex instal...Read more about BACH Enterprises
Porch Pro Headshot Nielsen Electric Inc.
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
Slogan: As licensed electricians with many years of industry experience, we are trained to diagnose and repair electrical problems, which if not taken care of immediately can lead to serious electrical problems. Our main goal is, and always will be to provide complete customer satisfaction on every...Read more about Nielsen Electric Inc.
Slogan: As licensed electricians with many years of industry experience, we are trained to diagnose and repair electrical problems, which if not taken care of immediately can lead to serious electrical problems. Our main goal is, and always will be to provide complete customer satisfaction on every...Read more about Nielsen Electric Inc.
Porch Pro Headshot Ally Electric and Solar, Inc.
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
(16)
We strive to exceed our customer expectation for electric and solar projects. We are an electric and solar contracting company. We professionally design and install turn-key solar systems for our residential and commercial clients. We install hassle-free electrical wiring systems professionally for...Read more about Ally Electric and Solar, Inc.
We strive to exceed our customer expectation for electric and solar projects. We are an electric and solar contracting company. We professionally design and install turn-key solar systems for our residential and commercial clients. We install hassle-free electrical wiring systems professionally for...Read more about Ally Electric and Solar, Inc.
Porch Pro Headshot Jackson Construction
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
(11)
Jackson Construction wishes to extend to you an invitation to do business with us. With so many companies out there, it may be difficult to choose a company you can rely on. We are here to create a solution for that problem. From a simple repair, to a complex project, we work with you every step of ...Read more about Jackson Construction
Jackson Construction wishes to extend to you an invitation to do business with us. With so many companies out there, it may be difficult to choose a company you can rely on. We are here to create a solution for that problem. From a simple repair, to a complex project, we work with you every step of ...Read more about Jackson Construction
Porch Pro Headshot Nor Cal Solar Services
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
(15)
Installer of energy efficient products focusing on Residential and Commercial applications. Offering the most affordable prices in the East Bay by capturing rebates and incentives that are offered
Installer of energy efficient products focusing on Residential and Commercial applications. Offering the most affordable prices in the East Bay by capturing rebates and incentives that are offered
Porch Pro Headshot Darius Kraus Electric Inc
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
We are a small electrical contracting company providing services to both residential and commercial customers. Our goal is to provide you with the professional experience that you would expect. To us this means showing up on time, explaining the work that we will be doing, doing the work, and c...Read more about Darius Kraus Electric Inc
We are a small electrical contracting company providing services to both residential and commercial customers. Our goal is to provide you with the professional experience that you would expect. To us this means showing up on time, explaining the work that we will be doing, doing the work, and c...Read more about Darius Kraus Electric Inc
Porch Pro Headshot Omos Electric Co
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
Since they started doing business, Omo's Electric Co. has been committed to delivering first-rate appliance installation, interior lighting, electrical services, electrical installation, and more. Established in 1995, Robert is an experienced and reputable electrician for the Walnut Creek area. Rob...Read more about Omos Electric Co
Since they started doing business, Omo's Electric Co. has been committed to delivering first-rate appliance installation, interior lighting, electrical services, electrical installation, and more. Established in 1995, Robert is an experienced and reputable electrician for the Walnut Creek area. Rob...Read more about Omos Electric Co
Porch Pro Headshot Blanco Design & Electric
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
Blanco electric offers a wide range of Electrical design and repair services. For residential and commercial . Family owned and has been serving the Bay Area to since 1995 . Panel upgrades meter upgrade ,Troubleshooting automation lighting control lighting Home improvements and commercial title 24...Read more about Blanco Design & Electric
Blanco electric offers a wide range of Electrical design and repair services. For residential and commercial . Family owned and has been serving the Bay Area to since 1995 . Panel upgrades meter upgrade ,Troubleshooting automation lighting control lighting Home improvements and commercial title 24...Read more about Blanco Design & Electric
Porch Pro Headshot Discount Electric
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
(83)
Porch Pro Headshot D & F LIQUIDATORS INC
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
Located in Hayward, D & F Liquidators is an electrical contractor that provides subpanel installation, electrical wiring and more.
Located in Hayward, D & F Liquidators is an electrical contractor that provides subpanel installation, electrical wiring and more.
Porch Pro Headshot Brothers' Electric Inc
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
Brothers Electric provides quick, reliable, and professional service for all your electrician needs. Call us today!
Brothers Electric provides quick, reliable, and professional service for all your electrician needs. Call us today!
Porch Pro Headshot Your Bay Area Handy Man
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
Porch Pro Headshot Matt's Electric house
Electricians
Serves Union City, California
Porch Pro Headshot EWD Electric
Electricians
Serves Union City, California

Latest projects near Union City

Recent projects booked on Porch
Fremont 94536
Electrical
Start Date
I'm flexible
Project type
Install something new
What to install
Something else
Project description
2 ceiling fans need to be installed (new installation /no existing wiring) - vanity light replaced in bathroom and and some light switched need to be switched out
Hayward 94544
Electrical Inspection
Start Date
Within 48 hours
Purpose
Home safety
Inspection type
Electrical
Property type
Condo or townhome
Property size
1,501-2,000 sq ft
Property age
11-20 years
Foundation type
Slab on ground
Relationship to property
Owner
Occupied
Yes
Utilities turned on
Yes
Specific services
None of the above
Hayward 94545
Thermostat Replacement and Repair
Comments from Customer
I would like to get an estimate for connecting wires in the thermostat
Fremont 94555
Electrical
Start Date
I'm flexible
Project type
Install something new
What to install
Something else
Project description
chandelier
Hayward 94544
Electrical
Start Date
I'm flexible
Project type
Install something new
What to install
Something else
Project description
Heater
Union City 94587
Electrical
Start Date
Within 48 hours
Project type
Install something new
What to install
Something else
Project description
I need a transfer switch installed
Hayward 94542
Electrical Inspection
Start Date
Within 48 hours
Purpose
Repair something
Repair type
Electrical
What needs to be repaired
I just need an electrical inspection
Reason for inspection
To locate unknown or potential problems
Inspection area
Just specific components
Component types
Power outlets, Electrical wiring
Home built
I'm not sure