Top 10 House Painters in Gainesville, GA

Porch Pro Headshot E J House Painting LLC
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Porch Pro Headshot Fresh Coat Painters of Buford
Painters
Serves Gainesville, Georgia
(347)
"Fresh Coat of Buford painted a large portion of the interior of my house and did an outstanding job. The crew was prompt, professional, and friendly. The quality of their work is exceptional and I just can't get over how wonderful everything looks. I'm definitely hiring them for my next project!...Read more about Fresh Coat Painters of Buford
"Fresh Coat of Buford painted a large portion of the interior of my house and did an outstanding job. The crew was prompt, professional, and friendly. The quality of their work is exceptional and I just can't get over how wonderful everything looks. I'm definitely hiring them for my next project!...Read more about Fresh Coat Painters of Buford
Porch Pro Headshot Pretty Handy Guys Home Service Pros
Painters
Serves Gainesville, Georgia
(85)
"dryer vent clogged due to prior contractor attempting to "unclog" it. We had water in the dryer vent so we assumed it was condensation or a leak. Bill was there quickly, got the parts and finished the same day. He took a picture of the clogged pipe for me. Outstanding service and work. Thanks. JRH...Read more about Pretty Handy Guys Home Service Pros
"dryer vent clogged due to prior contractor attempting to "unclog" it. We had water in the dryer vent so we assumed it was condensation or a leak. Bill was there quickly, got the parts and finished the same day. He took a picture of the clogged pipe for me. Outstanding service and work. Thanks. JRH...Read more about Pretty Handy Guys Home Service Pros
Porch Pro Headshot Bizzy Lizzy Designs, Inc.
Painters
Serves Gainesville, Georgia
(25)
"Excellent!!! She changed the color of my farm table to the perfect color. Also changed the entire look of my kitchen by giving me the exact color I was looking for in my kitchen cabinets. Would highly recommend...I could not be happier. "
"Excellent!!! She changed the color of my farm table to the perfect color. Also changed the entire look of my kitchen by giving me the exact color I was looking for in my kitchen cabinets. Would highly recommend...I could not be happier. "
Porch Pro Headshot ZEFER Contracting, INC.
Painters
Serves Gainesville, Georgia
(30)
"We used Zefer Contracting, Inc. for a Complete Shingle Replacement Overall they did a great job from inspection to scheduling to installation. Two days on site. Good follow-up from management. Paperwork was painless."
"We used Zefer Contracting, Inc. for a Complete Shingle Replacement Overall they did a great job from inspection to scheduling to installation. Two days on site. Good follow-up from management. Paperwork was painless."
Porch Pro Headshot Ale House Painting & More
Painters
Serves Gainesville, Georgia
(21)
" Interior Painting Verified Review Alex was extremely friendly and helpful in making sure the paint job I needed came out exceptional. The room he painted for us was perfect! I would definitely recommend using Alex for any paint job you need. I plan on using him for any paint jobs I have in the fu...Read more about Ale House Painting & More
" Interior Painting Verified Review Alex was extremely friendly and helpful in making sure the paint job I needed came out exceptional. The room he painted for us was perfect! I would definitely recommend using Alex for any paint job you need. I plan on using him for any paint jobs I have in the fu...Read more about Ale House Painting & More
Porch Pro Headshot North Georgia Services
Painters
Serves Gainesville, Georgia
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Our mission is to provide professional installation, maintenance and repair services and other related services that will assist businesses, individuals, households and non-profit organizations in ensuring that their facility and equipment in good shape. We want to build a handyman service company t...Read more about North Georgia Services
Our mission is to provide professional installation, maintenance and repair services and other related services that will assist businesses, individuals, households and non-profit organizations in ensuring that their facility and equipment in good shape. We want to build a handyman service company t...Read more about North Georgia Services
Porch Pro Headshot D&G Painting
Painters
Serves Gainesville, Georgia
(19)
"Wow! Douglas and his crew came to my home and painted a few interior rooms and painted the whole exterior of my home. They worked in a timely manner and done a outstanding job. Very professional! I would recommend them to anyone looking for a professional painting crew."
"Wow! Douglas and his crew came to my home and painted a few interior rooms and painted the whole exterior of my home. They worked in a timely manner and done a outstanding job. Very professional! I would recommend them to anyone looking for a professional painting crew."
Porch Pro Headshot Agape Painting
Painters
Serves Gainesville, Georgia
(21)
"Extremely professional snd knowledgeable. Exceptional paint job. We are still working on some rooms, but the house looks fresh and new. Will hire agin when we are ready to do exterior. He takes great pride in his work and does a wonderful job. Highly recommend!"
"Extremely professional snd knowledgeable. Exceptional paint job. We are still working on some rooms, but the house looks fresh and new. Will hire agin when we are ready to do exterior. He takes great pride in his work and does a wonderful job. Highly recommend!"
Porch Pro Headshot MR.Wonderful
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Serves Gainesville, Georgia
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"April and Randy did an awesome job painting our house in Conyers. April loves to find ways of upgrading the house in a cost effective way, saving money. I highly recommend MR Wonderful for painting jobs. Also, MR Wonderful works through Home Depot and can give you a discount from Home Depot. Da...Read more about MR.Wonderful
"April and Randy did an awesome job painting our house in Conyers. April loves to find ways of upgrading the house in a cost effective way, saving money. I highly recommend MR Wonderful for painting jobs. Also, MR Wonderful works through Home Depot and can give you a discount from Home Depot. Da...Read more about MR.Wonderful

Frequently asked questions about house painters

There is nothing like a fresh coat of paint in a new home. You can transform rooms with a change of color, and fresh paint breathes new life into an older home. Costs for painting homes vary. It depends on the rate of labor and on the type of paint you use. Most of the cost comes from the size of the home. The more square footage you need painted, the more expensive the job will be.

The average cost for painter services in a home is estimated at $3,500. On the low side, you can expect to pay $1,200 and $6,500 on the high side. These estimates assume you have a one-story home with around 1,000 square feet of wall to paint. More stories will mean higher costs.

The price is usually divided up into materials and labor. Labor tends to make up 85% of a job, but this can vary depending on the contractor. Most contractors charge between $2 - $6 / square foot. This calculates interior painting jobs with two coats of paint. For more specific paint jobs, such as doors or cabinets, you can expect to be charged $50 - $100 / door or drawer face.

Some contractors have different models of payment, which you may discover when looking up “painting companies near me” or “house painters near me.” You can be charged per room, which averages around $800 - $1,200 for a bedroom, and as high as $3,000 for a living room or similar large space. Some painters may choose to bill hourly, which can range from $20 - $50 / hour for basic painting, and $100 / hour or higher for specialty painting. A skilled painter should be able to cover between 150 – 350 square feet/hour but don’t forget to factor in prep time, clean up, and both coats of paint needed.

The cost of painting a home's exterior is far more variable, depending on your siding. Some sidings (like stucco) can cost up to $3,000 / 1,000 square feet, and that cost can rise if there are multiple stories. Weather can also play a major factor, which is why local painters are in high demand during the summer months. Vinyl siding expands and contracts depending on weather, so you’ll want a latex-based paint that is durable to these changes. For wood siding, latex is always a good option for allowing wood to breathe. Beware acrylic or oil-based paints, as these can create moisture stains. If you have stucco siding, you can go with latex, but it’s not your best option if the walls are damaged. Elastomeric paint will cover those imperfections while still being breathable. This paint is thick and time-consuming to apply. If you have brick siding, you’ll want a porous stain or paint so water doesn’t get trapped inside.

Siding is the biggest factor to cost, as prep and materials needed to do the job correctly can raise the price. Brick and stucco are the most expensive, while metal, wood, vinyl, and concrete tend to be on the lower end. Extra stories mean extra work for the painter, as safety measures and ladders need to be implemented. Painting a second or third story of a home takes longer than painting a single story based on logistics. It’s not just the walls, either. You may want to paint the garage, the shutters, the eaves and downspouts, and the siding and trim.

Your brand of paint can alter costs, as well as the cost of your finish. Flat paint tends to be the cheapest, but is also the least durable. Mid-range finishes, including eggshell and satin, can be good choices, depending on what you’re looking for. Semi-gloss finish will showcase imperfections and dents but is also resistant to cleaning. High-gloss is the most expensive type of finish and is recommended for small areas, such as trim, windows, and doors. While it is possible to DIY your home’s exterior, a professional comes with all the needed materials and is knowledgeable about what will work best and how to stay safe on the job. They are worth serious consideration.

Yes, you can paint vinyl siding. Years ago, this answer was no because paint continued to slide off the siding. We’ve come a long way since then. The best paint for vinyl is latex urethane paint, as it can cope with the constant contracting and expanding of the siding. Many paint companies create paint specifically designed for siding.

Painting vinyl is similar to painting other exteriors. You’ll want to coat it with primer (something designed for vinyl) and use a brush for the tricky spots. Otherwise, you can use a roller and cover a lot of ground. Once you have the primer, add the topcoat. Vinyl has one more caveat that you should be aware of. Dark colors tend to trap a lot of heat. Most vinyl paints will be light colors as a result, so it reflects heat rather than absorbs it. Weather can be a factor in painting vinyl, and the best weather is overcast, comfortable conditions. Sun, humidity, direct heat, and wind are not your friends when it comes to painting vinyl. You’ll want to ensure that painting your siding doesn’t void its warranty before you begin.

As with any painting, you’ll want to ensure you clean the area thoroughly first. For vinyl, a pressure washer is the best choice. You’ll want to find a recipe that tackles mold and mildew or buy a TSP solution. Mold and mildew tend to get between the paint and the siding, so it’s imperative you deal with them before you paint.

The quick answer is 350 – 400 square feet. This is generally true of wall, ceiling, and trim paint. Primer tends to go less, giving you 250 square feet on average. If you’re painting a dark room with a light color, you may need more primer coats, so keep that in mind. Be aware that fresh drywall is extremely porous and may absorb more paint than expected. Most drywall tends to arrive pre-primed, but be ready if it isn’t. If you have a textured wall (think popcorn ceilings, for example), you should use 20% more paint. If you need to paint 100 square feet of ceiling, it’s recommended you buy enough paint to cover 120 square feet to make up for the texture. You can stretch your paint with the correct tools. A nine-inch roller usually gives the best results for a coat of paint. For textured walls, consider a 1/2-inch nap over a 3/8-inch nap.

Let’s dive into the math. You know how much paint you need per square foot, but how do you calculate that square footage? First, measure the height of every wall, and add it together. Then, do the same for the length of each wall. Multiply those two numbers together, and you have the square footage. If you divide that number by 400 (how much a gallon of paint should cover), you know how many gallons you need to buy. This works for trim and doors as well. Multiply the total lengths and widths together, and divide it by 400. It’s never a bad idea to round up or ensure you have extra paint left over. You may need it for touch-ups or if a specific section requires more paint than you anticipated. It’s better to have too much than too little and have the hardware store mix you more paint. What if the color is off by even a slight bit? That’s a frustration you can easily avoid.

No, you can’t use exterior paint inside. Exterior paint is designed to hold up against weather extremes and, as such, contains more VOCs (Volatile Organic Compounds). These compounds were not designed for enclosed spaces; they can smell funky and release toxins that might make you or your pets sick. Exterior paint doesn’t settle in a short amount of time. In cold weather, exterior paint could continually release those toxins for a month or more. In warmer weather, this timeframe may be reduced to weeks. The process of releasing these toxins is called curing. Most professionals will wear masks when painting outside for this reason.

Exterior paint is softer by nature. It needs to be able to breathe and contract or expand with the home. It doesn’t stand up as well to the wear and tear that interior paint deals with on a daily basis. While all paint contains mildewcides and fungicides, the ingredients in exterior and interior paint are very different. The VOCs are needed in both paints to hold the pigment in. If you use exterior paint on indoor surfaces, ventilation is your first concern. This becomes a greater concern when spraying paint instead of rolling it, as spraying it makes it airborne that much quicker.

VOCs can cause lightheadedness, headaches, nausea, irritated eyes and throat, and respiratory issues. This can be an even greater hazard for those with compromised immune systems. Exterior and interior paints are vastly different, so you shouldn’t combine them. It compromises the quality of both paints. Plus, exterior paint isn’t designed to look good inside. Both varieties of paint are highly specialized, and you’ll likely regret using them where they are not intended.

The average cost to paint a 12x12 room is $650, with $400 being on the low end and $900 on the high end. Several factors can change these costs or cause them to rise. If you need drywall or plaster repaired before the job, that will cost time and effort. The higher your walls rise, the more time or paint it might take to finish the job. If you want to use designer paints, you may spend more on the materials. Your cost will also change based on the finish you choose.

Square footage is the most important consideration when factoring the price of a room. A large room, such as a living room, will cost more than a small bedroom or bathroom. Kitchens tend to cost the most since the painting is specific. They require far more attention to detail when you consider backsplashes, cabinets, and trims. Textured walls can add to that cost since it eats up more materials. Different types of paint can change the cost as well. On average, eggshell, satin, and flat are the cheapest paints. Matte, semi-gloss, latex, and oil are mid-range and all competitively priced. High-gloss paint is expensive and best used on small surfaces like trims.

You have the option to do the work yourself, of course. Be aware that it’s never as simple as splashing paint on the walls. You’ll need to purchase all the required materials, such as brushes, painter’s tape, rollers, trays, and plastic to prevent spillage. You’ll need to clean the walls and remove outlet covers and switch plates. Once that’s done, you can use painter’s tape on all the edges and then start. The big question you will need to ask yourself is whether you have the time. Painters are efficient, have all the tools, and do the job constantly. They will know immediately the best way to handle it.

Now that you know the scope of your project in terms of cost and effort, you can start dreaming in color.

Recent reviews for Gainesville Painters

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Zefer Contracting, Inc. is one of the most deceitful, underhanded companies I've had the unfortunate opportunity to have to deal with. They prey on those who are in precarious positions when their homes are damaged. Without my permission or knowledg...

- Carolyn OBrien
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Very professional and a great company overall to work with. I would highly recommend Zefer Contracting to anyone looking for an honest and very reliable company.

- Emily Baxter
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zefer the best! Mr. Lee , came and knocked at my door and said there were damages on the shingles and did the inspection. We spoke with my insurance company and the next day we fixed a date and the shingles were replaced. He is awesome and always there to...

- Anju Rani
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On 10/8/16, after Hurricane Matthew, we had damage to the inside of our home (ceilings) due to the roof leaking. Zefer Contracting Inc. came to provide a free estimate and convinced us to file with our insurance company, and even made the claim on our beh...

- Hilary Beeler
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Very POSITIVE experience working with Josh Greeson and ZEFER Contracting. Being a home owner for 30 years , I have never put a claim in on my homeowners insurance until now. Josh made the experience a breeze, answering all my questions in a timely and pr...

- Nick Schreiber
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Zefer recently replaced my damaged roof. I dealt with their rep Lee Moore. Lee was very professional to deal with and I have very POSITIVE experience working with him. He helped me with my insurance too so I almost didn't do anything. Everything that ...

- Raymond Tan
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Zefer Contracting was great a work with. Our contact Josh was very friendly and helpful during the whole process. He answered all questions and was very helpful in filing the claim with our insurance company. I would definitely recommend this company and ...

- Jennifer Lucky
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Sean Holmes is extremely knowledgeable about every aspect of home maintenance and repair. We had a shutter come loose from a window during a storm, and didn't have the materials nor a ladder for reattaching it. Sean not only reattached the shutter, but ...

- Franny Syufy
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Alan Carleton and his team came to our home and did an excellent job. When they had finished, they came back to check the work and saw some things that did not meet their standard of excellence, so they came back to make a good paint job a great paint job...

- James Barber
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Overall great experience working here Peter and Michael are great very professional very timely matter

- Michael Yonko
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Custom Deck price 2500 totally impressed. A Complete professional. Job completed on time and when the job was done the area was spotless.

- Glibert Clark
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I contracted North Georgia Services to put new vinyl siding on my 850sqft home early last year. I was a bit skeptic based on there price. But they did a amazing job! Very fair on the price. they even went around the house with a rolling magnet too get all...

- Ben Givens

Everything You Need to Know About Gainesville House Painters

I’m searching for Painters servicing my zip code in Gainesville.

Many painters provide service to multiple zip codes in and around Gainesville. Browse through a sample of the Painters in Gainesville below to find the right professional in your area for your project. Remember to contact each of these professionals individually to ask about their prices, recent successful painting services jobs, how they bill, and what licenses or permits they have or will have to get for your job:

  • Center Plc:
    • Service Area Zip Code: 30349
  • WOW 1 DAY PAINTING - Atlanta:
    • Service Area Zip Code: 30036
  • 2 Shea Professional Painting:
    • Service Area Zip Code: 30504 and 30564

If you weren't able to find the right painter company that services your Gainesville zip code, don't worry. Try contacting the company directly to ask them what surrounding areas they also service near Gainesville.

Who are the best Painters in Gainesville?

We've found 50 painter providers that are available to you in Gainesville.

Keep in mind that every project has different requirements, and some painter professionals maybe be more equipped to handle the specifications of your painting services work than others. Talk to multiple painters before deciding which one is right for you. You will want to consider how much they charge, if they are properly licensed for painting services work in Gainesville, and if your project is a fit. Here are some suggested professionals and companies to get you started:

  • Sycamore Ridge Painting & Repair
    • Location: Gainesville
  • April Painting Co Inc
    • Location: Gainesville
    • Been in business since: 1992
  • Five Star Painting Of Suwanee
    • Location: Gainesville

What should I check for once my Painter in Gainesville has finished working?

Every painting services project is going to have different results, but here are a few things to check for once any painting services company has told you they've finished the job:

  • Obviously you want to do a visual inspection. Even if you're unfamiliar with painting services work, this gives you the opportunity to ask questions (even basic ones like, what did you do?).
  • Ask the painter to describe what they did. Whether your painting services project was a repair job or a building job, have them run you through what was done.
  • Compare the description provided on your painting services project estimate to the work completed. Did the professional do what was promised?
  • Request that the painter do a follow-up visit to check on the work. Most professionals are willing to do this, especially if you ask them.

All House Painters in Gainesville, GA

Porch Pro Headshot D & G Roofing and Painting
Painters
Serves Gainesville, Georgia
If you're searching for a professional roofing contractor in Norcross, GA just make a call to D & G Roofing and Painting. Exterior Painting, Interior Painting, Roofing Service, Siding Wood Repair, Roofing Lilburn GA; Grayson GA;Doraville GA;Mountain Park GA;Berkeley Lake GA Roof Repair, Roof Replace...Read more about D & G Roofing and Painting
If you're searching for a professional roofing contractor in Norcross, GA just make a call to D & G Roofing and Painting. Exterior Painting, Interior Painting, Roofing Service, Siding Wood Repair, Roofing Lilburn GA; Grayson GA;Doraville GA;Mountain Park GA;Berkeley Lake GA Roof Repair, Roof Replace...Read more about D & G Roofing and Painting
Porch Pro Headshot Diamond Contracting
Painters
Serves Gainesville, Georgia
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We specialize in seamless gutters, gutter covers, and roofing offering in more than 20 gutter colors, and a wide selection of gutter covers to best fit your home needs, and your budget.
We specialize in seamless gutters, gutter covers, and roofing offering in more than 20 gutter colors, and a wide selection of gutter covers to best fit your home needs, and your budget.
Porch Pro Headshot Roof Masters & Remodeling
Painters
Serves Gainesville, Georgia
(2)
we are committed to Our Success and remodeling your next project
we are committed to Our Success and remodeling your next project
Porch Pro Headshot Jefferson Painting
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Serves Gainesville, Georgia
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Servicing Jefferson, Georgia and surrounding areas
Servicing Jefferson, Georgia and surrounding areas
Porch Pro Headshot Wet Paint Productions
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Serves Gainesville, Georgia
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Wet Paint Productions is a Residential and Commercial Painting Company in Atlanta, Georgia. We specialize in both interior and exterior painting.
Wet Paint Productions is a Residential and Commercial Painting Company in Atlanta, Georgia. We specialize in both interior and exterior painting.
Porch Pro Headshot Nathan's turnkey services. I do carpentry ,drywall finishing, siding,painting and roof repairs.
Having over 25 years Experience in the Commercial and Residential Building Industry. I provide excellent quality wall coverings Specializing in high end stain grade trim carpentry . From paint to wainscoating . . I can install beautiful rustic chic tounge and groove shiplap accent walls as well. Le...Read more about Nathan's turnkey services. I do carpentry ,drywall finishing, siding,painting and roof repairs.
Having over 25 years Experience in the Commercial and Residential Building Industry. I provide excellent quality wall coverings Specializing in high end stain grade trim carpentry . From paint to wainscoating . . I can install beautiful rustic chic tounge and groove shiplap accent walls as well. Le...Read more about Nathan's turnkey services. I do carpentry ,drywall finishing, siding,painting and roof repairs.
Porch Pro Headshot Martinez Romay Painting LLC
Painters
Serves Gainesville, Georgia
Are you looking for a professional interior and exterior painting contractor in Metro Atlanta who can perform and produce excellent work in a short time? At Romay Painting LLC our professionals excel at using proper painting techniques and tools to create amazing results for multi-family communitie...Read more about Martinez Romay Painting LLC
Are you looking for a professional interior and exterior painting contractor in Metro Atlanta who can perform and produce excellent work in a short time? At Romay Painting LLC our professionals excel at using proper painting techniques and tools to create amazing results for multi-family communitie...Read more about Martinez Romay Painting LLC
Porch Pro Headshot Prestige Remodeling Service Inc
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Serves Gainesville, Georgia
Prestige Remodeling based out of Atlanta, GA is a remodeling specialist. In business for over 15 years. We provide commercial and residential construction & remodeling, deck installation and more.
Prestige Remodeling based out of Atlanta, GA is a remodeling specialist. In business for over 15 years. We provide commercial and residential construction & remodeling, deck installation and more.
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Gainesville 30506
Drywall Installation
Start Date
Within a month
Project type
Install drywall where none exists
Rooms to install drywall
Bathroom, Bedroom, Living room, family room, or entertainment room, Entry or hallway, Kitchen
Surfaces to drywall
Walls and ceilings
Who will provide materials
The contractor will need to purchase materials for the project
Gainesville 30506
Trim Work
Start Date
Within a month
Install or repair
Repair
Location
Baseboards, hang bead board
Higher than 10ft
No
Already has materials
No, but I can get them
Gainesville 30506
Stucco
Service needed
Stucco
Start Date
I'm flexible
Gainesville 30506
Drywall Repair
Start Date
Within a week
Project type
Repair existing drywall
Amount to repair
More than one area the size of a quarter or larger
Surfaces to repair
Ceilings
Any repair above 15ft
No
Gainesville 30504
Fence and Outdoor Structure Painting
Start Date
Within a month
Painting location area
Outside
What needs to be painted
Fence
Fence length
More than 400 feet
Fence height
4-6 feet
Fence construction material
Wood
Has fence previously been painted
No
Already purchased paint
Yes
Gainesville 30506
Fence and Outdoor Structure Painting
Start Date
Within a month
Service requested
Refinish deck
Deck material
Wood
Deck finish
Wood stain
Desired finish
Not listed
Deck preparation
Yes, I will clean and prepare the deck
Deck size (SQFT)
500 to 1000 square feet
Materials provided
Yes, I will provide the materials
Oakwood 30566
Fence and Outdoor Structure Painting
Start Date
Within a month
Painting location area
Outside
What needs to be painted
Deck, patio or porch
Painted item
Deck, Stairs outside leading to the decks. We have 2 decks on the back of the house that need to be cleaned and re-stained. They are approximately 40 feet long and have the hand rails too.
SQFT of painted area
More than 500 sq. ft.
Painted material
Wood
Has structure previously been painted
Yes
Already purchased paint
No, and I want the pro to recommend
Gainesville 30506
Drywall Repair
Start Date
I'm flexible
Service
Drywall repair
Amount to repair
One area the size of a quarter or larger
Surfaces to repair
Ceilings
Any repair above 15ft
No
Gainesville 30501
Trim Work
Start Date
Within a week
Install or repair
Installation
Location
Window, Baseboards, Crown molding
Higher than 10ft
Yes
Already has materials
No, but I can get them