Top 10 House Painters in Red Hill, PA

Porch Pro Headshot Pro Painters Plus, LLC
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
(215)
Serving Bucks and Montgomery counties in Pennsylvania, Pro Painters Plus is a locally owned interior and exterior painting business for discerning, quality-conscious clients who seek guidance on painting their homes or businesses. Founder and President, Michael Gomeringer, has gone to great lengths ...Read more about Pro Painters Plus, LLC
Serving Bucks and Montgomery counties in Pennsylvania, Pro Painters Plus is a locally owned interior and exterior painting business for discerning, quality-conscious clients who seek guidance on painting their homes or businesses. Founder and President, Michael Gomeringer, has gone to great lengths ...Read more about Pro Painters Plus, LLC
Porch Pro Headshot Garcia Painting
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
(93)
"Quality project completed on time. Garcia Painting professionalism is outstanding. Excellent customer service, attention to detail and in depth knowledge about their craft. Great company, Great Service, Excellent pricing."
"Quality project completed on time. Garcia Painting professionalism is outstanding. Excellent customer service, attention to detail and in depth knowledge about their craft. Great company, Great Service, Excellent pricing."
Porch Pro Headshot K and Experts
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
(17)
"Since this was my first purchasing a home I went through different homes and once i found the I liked I bought it. First I chose another contractor but did not work out so I called k and k llc loc and they finished the renovation for me on time and on a budget. I would highly recommend them to anyo...Read more about K and Experts
"Since this was my first purchasing a home I went through different homes and once i found the I liked I bought it. First I chose another contractor but did not work out so I called k and k llc loc and they finished the renovation for me on time and on a budget. I would highly recommend them to anyo...Read more about K and Experts
Porch Pro Headshot Franzone, Inc.
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
(4)
" FRANZONE INC is an excellent company that strives to fully satisfy. This was the only company that truly listened to my desires and made sure to explain all possible options and limitations that could lie ahead. They have a trustworthy, courteous and hardworking group of craftsman. The end resu...Read more about Franzone, Inc.
" FRANZONE INC is an excellent company that strives to fully satisfy. This was the only company that truly listened to my desires and made sure to explain all possible options and limitations that could lie ahead. They have a trustworthy, courteous and hardworking group of craftsman. The end resu...Read more about Franzone, Inc.
Porch Pro Headshot Rockstar Painting
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
(21)
"We own a log house that was in need of staining. I was able to stain most of the logs, but the height of the front and rear fascia and soffit boards were too high for me to reach safely. Brian was one of 4 bidders. He gave a competitive bid, but was on a tight schedule. I was able to work with ...Read more about Rockstar Painting
"We own a log house that was in need of staining. I was able to stain most of the logs, but the height of the front and rear fascia and soffit boards were too high for me to reach safely. Brian was one of 4 bidders. He gave a competitive bid, but was on a tight schedule. I was able to work with ...Read more about Rockstar Painting
Porch Pro Headshot D.S.Contracting
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
(6)
Been in the business for 35 years open ed my own business 6years ago,our3priorites are #1 customer service,quality work and fair pricing that's where we stand. We guarantee all our work ask about our guarantee. Dan The Man Owner
Been in the business for 35 years open ed my own business 6years ago,our3priorites are #1 customer service,quality work and fair pricing that's where we stand. We guarantee all our work ask about our guarantee. Dan The Man Owner
Porch Pro Headshot Kulp Painting Inc
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
(32)
Kulp Painting has been serving the Lehigh Valley and beyond since 1998. Interior and exterior painting. Surface preparation. Kitchen and bathroom cabinet spraying. Epoxy finishes for concrete floors. Wallpaper installation and removal services. Light Carpentry.
Kulp Painting has been serving the Lehigh Valley and beyond since 1998. Interior and exterior painting. Surface preparation. Kitchen and bathroom cabinet spraying. Epoxy finishes for concrete floors. Wallpaper installation and removal services. Light Carpentry.
Porch Pro Headshot Richard Schimpf Custom Painting
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
(36)
Over 30 years of serving Bucks County, PA. Interior / Exterior; Residential and Commercial Painting; Industrial Painting. Staining; Powerwashing; Deck Refinishing; Painting Aluminum Siding and Cabinetry; Historical Restorations Free Estimates - Fully Insured - Competitive Rates -- Professio...Read more about Richard Schimpf Custom Painting
Over 30 years of serving Bucks County, PA. Interior / Exterior; Residential and Commercial Painting; Industrial Painting. Staining; Powerwashing; Deck Refinishing; Painting Aluminum Siding and Cabinetry; Historical Restorations Free Estimates - Fully Insured - Competitive Rates -- Professio...Read more about Richard Schimpf Custom Painting
Porch Pro Headshot Roberto Carpentry LLC
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
(15)
I have more then 15 years on the business help people and doing the best work for my clients and I am more then happy to help and other people
I have more then 15 years on the business help people and doing the best work for my clients and I am more then happy to help and other people
Porch Pro Headshot J&E General Construction LLC
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
Our company is based on the belief that our customers' needs are of the utmost importance. Our entire team is committed to meeting those needs. As a result, a high percentage of our business is from repeat customers and referrals.
Our company is based on the belief that our customers' needs are of the utmost importance. Our entire team is committed to meeting those needs. As a result, a high percentage of our business is from repeat customers and referrals.

Frequently asked questions about house painters

There is nothing like a fresh coat of paint in a new home. You can transform rooms with a change of color, and fresh paint breathes new life into an older home. Costs for painting homes vary. It depends on the rate of labor and on the type of paint you use. Most of the cost comes from the size of the home. The more square footage you need painted, the more expensive the job will be.

The average cost for painter services in a home is estimated at $3,500. On the low side, you can expect to pay $1,200 and $6,500 on the high side. These estimates assume you have a one-story home with around 1,000 square feet of wall to paint. More stories will mean higher costs.

The price is usually divided up into materials and labor. Labor tends to make up 85% of a job, but this can vary depending on the contractor. Most contractors charge between $2 - $6 / square foot. This calculates interior painting jobs with two coats of paint. For more specific paint jobs, such as doors or cabinets, you can expect to be charged $50 - $100 / door or drawer face.

Some contractors have different models of payment, which you may discover when looking up “painting companies near me” or “house painters near me.” You can be charged per room, which averages around $800 - $1,200 for a bedroom, and as high as $3,000 for a living room or similar large space. Some painters may choose to bill hourly, which can range from $20 - $50 / hour for basic painting, and $100 / hour or higher for specialty painting. A skilled painter should be able to cover between 150 – 350 square feet/hour but don’t forget to factor in prep time, clean up, and both coats of paint needed.

The cost of painting a home's exterior is far more variable, depending on your siding. Some sidings (like stucco) can cost up to $3,000 / 1,000 square feet, and that cost can rise if there are multiple stories. Weather can also play a major factor, which is why local painters are in high demand during the summer months. Vinyl siding expands and contracts depending on weather, so you’ll want a latex-based paint that is durable to these changes. For wood siding, latex is always a good option for allowing wood to breathe. Beware acrylic or oil-based paints, as these can create moisture stains. If you have stucco siding, you can go with latex, but it’s not your best option if the walls are damaged. Elastomeric paint will cover those imperfections while still being breathable. This paint is thick and time-consuming to apply. If you have brick siding, you’ll want a porous stain or paint so water doesn’t get trapped inside.

Siding is the biggest factor to cost, as prep and materials needed to do the job correctly can raise the price. Brick and stucco are the most expensive, while metal, wood, vinyl, and concrete tend to be on the lower end. Extra stories mean extra work for the painter, as safety measures and ladders need to be implemented. Painting a second or third story of a home takes longer than painting a single story based on logistics. It’s not just the walls, either. You may want to paint the garage, the shutters, the eaves and downspouts, and the siding and trim.

Your brand of paint can alter costs, as well as the cost of your finish. Flat paint tends to be the cheapest, but is also the least durable. Mid-range finishes, including eggshell and satin, can be good choices, depending on what you’re looking for. Semi-gloss finish will showcase imperfections and dents but is also resistant to cleaning. High-gloss is the most expensive type of finish and is recommended for small areas, such as trim, windows, and doors. While it is possible to DIY your home’s exterior, a professional comes with all the needed materials and is knowledgeable about what will work best and how to stay safe on the job. They are worth serious consideration.

Yes, you can paint vinyl siding. Years ago, this answer was no because paint continued to slide off the siding. We’ve come a long way since then. The best paint for vinyl is latex urethane paint, as it can cope with the constant contracting and expanding of the siding. Many paint companies create paint specifically designed for siding.

Painting vinyl is similar to painting other exteriors. You’ll want to coat it with primer (something designed for vinyl) and use a brush for the tricky spots. Otherwise, you can use a roller and cover a lot of ground. Once you have the primer, add the topcoat. Vinyl has one more caveat that you should be aware of. Dark colors tend to trap a lot of heat. Most vinyl paints will be light colors as a result, so it reflects heat rather than absorbs it. Weather can be a factor in painting vinyl, and the best weather is overcast, comfortable conditions. Sun, humidity, direct heat, and wind are not your friends when it comes to painting vinyl. You’ll want to ensure that painting your siding doesn’t void its warranty before you begin.

As with any painting, you’ll want to ensure you clean the area thoroughly first. For vinyl, a pressure washer is the best choice. You’ll want to find a recipe that tackles mold and mildew or buy a TSP solution. Mold and mildew tend to get between the paint and the siding, so it’s imperative you deal with them before you paint.

The quick answer is 350 – 400 square feet. This is generally true of wall, ceiling, and trim paint. Primer tends to go less, giving you 250 square feet on average. If you’re painting a dark room with a light color, you may need more primer coats, so keep that in mind. Be aware that fresh drywall is extremely porous and may absorb more paint than expected. Most drywall tends to arrive pre-primed, but be ready if it isn’t. If you have a textured wall (think popcorn ceilings, for example), you should use 20% more paint. If you need to paint 100 square feet of ceiling, it’s recommended you buy enough paint to cover 120 square feet to make up for the texture. You can stretch your paint with the correct tools. A nine-inch roller usually gives the best results for a coat of paint. For textured walls, consider a 1/2-inch nap over a 3/8-inch nap.

Let’s dive into the math. You know how much paint you need per square foot, but how do you calculate that square footage? First, measure the height of every wall, and add it together. Then, do the same for the length of each wall. Multiply those two numbers together, and you have the square footage. If you divide that number by 400 (how much a gallon of paint should cover), you know how many gallons you need to buy. This works for trim and doors as well. Multiply the total lengths and widths together, and divide it by 400. It’s never a bad idea to round up or ensure you have extra paint left over. You may need it for touch-ups or if a specific section requires more paint than you anticipated. It’s better to have too much than too little and have the hardware store mix you more paint. What if the color is off by even a slight bit? That’s a frustration you can easily avoid.

No, you can’t use exterior paint inside. Exterior paint is designed to hold up against weather extremes and, as such, contains more VOCs (Volatile Organic Compounds). These compounds were not designed for enclosed spaces; they can smell funky and release toxins that might make you or your pets sick. Exterior paint doesn’t settle in a short amount of time. In cold weather, exterior paint could continually release those toxins for a month or more. In warmer weather, this timeframe may be reduced to weeks. The process of releasing these toxins is called curing. Most professionals will wear masks when painting outside for this reason.

Exterior paint is softer by nature. It needs to be able to breathe and contract or expand with the home. It doesn’t stand up as well to the wear and tear that interior paint deals with on a daily basis. While all paint contains mildewcides and fungicides, the ingredients in exterior and interior paint are very different. The VOCs are needed in both paints to hold the pigment in. If you use exterior paint on indoor surfaces, ventilation is your first concern. This becomes a greater concern when spraying paint instead of rolling it, as spraying it makes it airborne that much quicker.

VOCs can cause lightheadedness, headaches, nausea, irritated eyes and throat, and respiratory issues. This can be an even greater hazard for those with compromised immune systems. Exterior and interior paints are vastly different, so you shouldn’t combine them. It compromises the quality of both paints. Plus, exterior paint isn’t designed to look good inside. Both varieties of paint are highly specialized, and you’ll likely regret using them where they are not intended.

The average cost to paint a 12x12 room is $650, with $400 being on the low end and $900 on the high end. Several factors can change these costs or cause them to rise. If you need drywall or plaster repaired before the job, that will cost time and effort. The higher your walls rise, the more time or paint it might take to finish the job. If you want to use designer paints, you may spend more on the materials. Your cost will also change based on the finish you choose.

Square footage is the most important consideration when factoring the price of a room. A large room, such as a living room, will cost more than a small bedroom or bathroom. Kitchens tend to cost the most since the painting is specific. They require far more attention to detail when you consider backsplashes, cabinets, and trims. Textured walls can add to that cost since it eats up more materials. Different types of paint can change the cost as well. On average, eggshell, satin, and flat are the cheapest paints. Matte, semi-gloss, latex, and oil are mid-range and all competitively priced. High-gloss paint is expensive and best used on small surfaces like trims.

You have the option to do the work yourself, of course. Be aware that it’s never as simple as splashing paint on the walls. You’ll need to purchase all the required materials, such as brushes, painter’s tape, rollers, trays, and plastic to prevent spillage. You’ll need to clean the walls and remove outlet covers and switch plates. Once that’s done, you can use painter’s tape on all the edges and then start. The big question you will need to ask yourself is whether you have the time. Painters are efficient, have all the tools, and do the job constantly. They will know immediately the best way to handle it.

Now that you know the scope of your project in terms of cost and effort, you can start dreaming in color.

Recent reviews for Red Hill Painters

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Mr.dan is a really professional contractor and a very nice outgoing man. He knows what he is doing and likes to take his time and get the job done right! He is a real reasonable contractor and likes to keep the customer involved every step of the way so t...

- Nathan Palacios
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We had a complete remodel done on the exterior of my home and some interior and we could not be happier with the results! It looks like a brand new house! Very professional and prompt. Thank you!

- Nicolette O'Brien
45820

We had remodeled our basement and were very pleased with the craftsmanship put into the project. Everything was done in a great timeline. We also used Joe's services for making our patio in the summer. One friend of ours was so impressed he also used Joe ...

- Paul Kumar
86537

The paint job that never was... After over a year of waiting for the job to get done, I was told to find someone else... Unreliable!

- Stephen O'Sullivan
177335

very professional, quick, showed up on time and did all work as requested. Will use him for future projects

- David Turner
178571

I have a good experience with Roberto carpentry those people are very good doing the work project and carpentry my home looks great thank Roberto

- Roberto Zuniga
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I have a good experience working with this company Roberto is the best finish work in the area

- Roberto Zuniga
7880

Excellent work quality. Excellent value. Excellent to keep appointment.

Jr Garcia is very ,very good. Clean & polite. Comes in and does the work wonderfully. Cleans up whatever mess is created. Jr is a great painted to have in your home. Very trustworthy. Would hired jr back for any other jobs I have in my home again.

- Gail Schuck
11016

Excellent job. I will use him again. Quality work with attention to detail . Dependable, fair price.

- Denise Chesnick
53110

Professional, personable, dependable and capable of getting the job done to perfection! Thank you Garcia Painting! I would highly recommend this company.

- Rhonda H
12250

Gracia paintings level of professionalism, attention to detail, pricing and timeliness was refreshing to experience. In addition to high quality workmanship, the level of communication and delivery of expectations was much appreciated.

- Frank Pollers
6552

Excellent responsiveness in communication. Excellent to keep appointment. Excellent value.

Garcia Painting was professional, courteous and clean. The Garcia Painting team did an outstanding job. We will be using them to repaint the main body of our home.

- Sharon Gardone

Everything You Need to Know About Red Hill House Painters

I have Painting Services work that I need done in Red Hill. What should my budget be?

Our data on recent painter projects in Red Hill shows that larger painting services projects in city are often upwards of $0.00. However, this price depends on a number of factors. Cost can increase or decrease based on any/all of the following:

  • Location: painters travel time may factor into the budget.
  • Cost of materials. This is an important factor of your painting services project budget. You can purchase materials yourself, but remember that your painter professional maybe be able to leverage relationships with other companies to save on material costs.
  • Company ratings: Highly-rated painters tend to be more expensive. Decide what balance between ratings and cost is right for you.

As always, every project is different and you should contact multiple painters throughout Red Hill to ensure your project is done right.

Who are the best Painters in Red Hill?

We've found 50 painter providers that are available to you in Red Hill.

Keep in mind that every project has different requirements, and some painter professionals maybe be more equipped to handle the specifications of your painting services work than others. Talk to multiple painters before deciding which one is right for you. You will want to consider how much they charge, if they are properly licensed for painting services work in Red Hill, and if your project is a fit. Here are some suggested professionals and companies to get you started:

  • Roche Painting LLC.
    • Location: Red Hill
  • Color Brush
    • Location: Red Hill
  • Barthel's Helping Hands
    • Location: Red Hill

What should I check for once my Painter in Red Hill has finished working?

Every painting services project is going to have different results, but here are a few things to check for once any painting services company has told you they've finished the job:

  • Obviously you want to do a visual inspection. Even if you're unfamiliar with painting services work, this gives you the opportunity to ask questions (even basic ones like, what did you do?).
  • Ask the painter to describe what they did. Whether your painting services project was a repair job or a building job, have them run you through what was done.
  • Compare the description provided on your painting services project estimate to the work completed. Did the professional do what was promised?
  • Request that the painter do a follow-up visit to check on the work. Most professionals are willing to do this, especially if you ask them.

All House Painters in Red Hill, PA

Porch Pro Headshot Yost Painting
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
(12)
Interior/exterior painting, staining, power washing, quality work, attention to details, 22 years experience. Free estimates
Interior/exterior painting, staining, power washing, quality work, attention to details, 22 years experience. Free estimates
Porch Pro Headshot Franky's Painting Service,LLC
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
Franky's Painting Service, LLC offers professional quality at affordable prices. Call or text any time 484-506-0400
Franky's Painting Service, LLC offers professional quality at affordable prices. Call or text any time 484-506-0400
Porch Pro Headshot Joseph Dyer Painting
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
(6)
Is your home in North East and in need of a makeover? Contact Joseph Dyer Painting about their painting services to get started.
Is your home in North East and in need of a makeover? Contact Joseph Dyer Painting about their painting services to get started.
Porch Pro Headshot PHIL THE PAINTER
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
(16)
I DO INTERIOR PAINTING FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS, INVESTORS, REAL ESTATE CO, ETC, SINGLES,TOWNHOMES,CONDO, APTS,
I DO INTERIOR PAINTING FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS, INVESTORS, REAL ESTATE CO, ETC, SINGLES,TOWNHOMES,CONDO, APTS,
Porch Pro Headshot Sell Construction Group, LLC.
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
We are a small but solid General Contracting company based in Walnutport, PA 18088. We handle every aspect of your project so no need to have multiple contractors to keep up with.
We are a small but solid General Contracting company based in Walnutport, PA 18088. We handle every aspect of your project so no need to have multiple contractors to keep up with.
Porch Pro Headshot First Place House Painting
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
(2)
Give your home a new look with a quality paint job from First Place House Painting in Elkton, MD. For their excellent creativity and professionalism, they earned a stellar A+ rating (as of January 2018) from the Better Business Bureau.
Give your home a new look with a quality paint job from First Place House Painting in Elkton, MD. For their excellent creativity and professionalism, they earned a stellar A+ rating (as of January 2018) from the Better Business Bureau.
Porch Pro Headshot Paperhanging by Ed Rossi
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
I have been installing wallpaper in the tri-county area for over 30 years. specializing in all types of wallcoverings as well as difficult removals and painting services.
I have been installing wallpaper in the tri-county area for over 30 years. specializing in all types of wallcoverings as well as difficult removals and painting services.
Porch Pro Headshot Mancino Painting & Wallcovering
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
(1)
Mancino Painting is well known as a trusted and experienced painting and wallcovering company. With many years of experience in the business, we are completely dedicated to quality workmanship and customer satisfaction. We only use the highest quality materials on any job we do to make sure your pr...Read more about Mancino Painting & Wallcovering
Mancino Painting is well known as a trusted and experienced painting and wallcovering company. With many years of experience in the business, we are completely dedicated to quality workmanship and customer satisfaction. We only use the highest quality materials on any job we do to make sure your pr...Read more about Mancino Painting & Wallcovering
Porch Pro Headshot Fresh Coat of Doylestown
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
(3)
Welcome to Fresh Coat of Doylestown! A Professional Painting Company that serves Bucks County, PA. We offer a wide range of interior and exterior painting and related services, and we approach every project as if we were painting our own home. Whether you're looking to have your home painted, or you...Read more about Fresh Coat of Doylestown
Welcome to Fresh Coat of Doylestown! A Professional Painting Company that serves Bucks County, PA. We offer a wide range of interior and exterior painting and related services, and we approach every project as if we were painting our own home. Whether you're looking to have your home painted, or you...Read more about Fresh Coat of Doylestown
Porch Pro Headshot The House Doctor Paperhanging & Painting LLC
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
Ourname iswell respected throughout the area for professional painting services for over 28 years. Our services range from small residential to large commercial projects. We have had much experience in this field and can guarantee you a perfect job at a realistic price. Interiors and exteriors ar...Read more about The House Doctor Paperhanging & Painting LLC
Ourname iswell respected throughout the area for professional painting services for over 28 years. Our services range from small residential to large commercial projects. We have had much experience in this field and can guarantee you a perfect job at a realistic price. Interiors and exteriors ar...Read more about The House Doctor Paperhanging & Painting LLC
Porch Pro Headshot Thee handyman
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
I have been a contractor for close to 20 years . I started my career as a framer and new home builder and have spent the last 8 years as a full scale building company serving northeast Pennsylvania and parts of new Jersey with quality interior / exterior needs from structure to finish
I have been a contractor for close to 20 years . I started my career as a framer and new home builder and have spent the last 8 years as a full scale building company serving northeast Pennsylvania and parts of new Jersey with quality interior / exterior needs from structure to finish
Porch Pro Headshot reimagine interior painting LLC
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
True professional will do the job right. No cutting corners or a messy job. Always start and complete on time, and stay within the designated budget. No over priced estimates. What I offer my clients: • Professional painting services in Prompt, proficient and courteous service • Expert craftsmanshi...Read more about reimagine interior painting LLC
True professional will do the job right. No cutting corners or a messy job. Always start and complete on time, and stay within the designated budget. No over priced estimates. What I offer my clients: • Professional painting services in Prompt, proficient and courteous service • Expert craftsmanshi...Read more about reimagine interior painting LLC
Porch Pro Headshot Baas General Contracting
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
Baas General Contracting is a local family owned business. Our goal is to give our customers the finest quality of workmanship.
Baas General Contracting is a local family owned business. Our goal is to give our customers the finest quality of workmanship.
Porch Pro Headshot Ironside Commercial services LLC
Painters
Serves Red Hill, Pennsylvania
(1)
Look no further than Ironside Commercial services LLC in the Millington, MD area, a well-respected painting company known for their high-quality work and techniques.
Look no further than Ironside Commercial services LLC in the Millington, MD area, a well-respected painting company known for their high-quality work and techniques.

Latest projects near Red Hill

Recent projects booked on Porch
Red Hill 18076
Fence and Outdoor Structure Painting
Start Date
I'm flexible
Painting location area
Outside
What needs to be painted
Deck, patio or porch
Painted item
Deck
SQFT of painted area
Less than 150 sq. ft.
Painted material
Wood
Has structure previously been painted
Yes
Already purchased paint
No, and I want the pro to recommend
Red Hill 18076
Drywall Texturing
Start Date
I'm flexible
Rooms needing drywall texturing
Kitchen, Bathroom, Living room, family room, or entertainment room
Surfaces
Walls
Desired texture
Smooth finish (prep for wall paper)
Any work above 15ft
No
Who will purchase materials
I will provide materials, just need installation