Top 10 House Painters in Whitmore Lake, MI

Porch Pro Headshot C&W Home Improvements
Painters
Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
(621)
Licensed & insuraned contaractors looking to help with all your repair needs (Southeastern Michigan) Good day, my partner and I have over 20 years combined experience in the home remodeling services. We specialize in privacy fences,decks,plumbing and many other construction needs to get that house r...Read more about C&W Home Improvements
Licensed & insuraned contaractors looking to help with all your repair needs (Southeastern Michigan) Good day, my partner and I have over 20 years combined experience in the home remodeling services. We specialize in privacy fences,decks,plumbing and many other construction needs to get that house r...Read more about C&W Home Improvements
Porch Pro Headshot Handyman Connection of Ann Arbor
Painters
Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
(351)
"I just had Handyman Connection do 2 bathroom upgrades: replacing lights and reconfiguring the electrical switches, which included plastering the big hole left by the old fixtures, removing wallpaper and painting, installing permanent shower curtain rod fixtures and new blinds. They also replaced ...Read more about Handyman Connection of Ann Arbor
"I just had Handyman Connection do 2 bathroom upgrades: replacing lights and reconfiguring the electrical switches, which included plastering the big hole left by the old fixtures, removing wallpaper and painting, installing permanent shower curtain rod fixtures and new blinds. They also replaced ...Read more about Handyman Connection of Ann Arbor
Porch Pro Headshot Kyles & Kyles Plumbing and Home Improvement services
Painters
Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
(146)
we see things as they could be, not as they are, and we strive to bring everyone's vision of how it could be into their Reality, we help customers save money by enabling them to use their own products longer, repairing what has broken, improving what is already there, or if need be, installing a mo...Read more about Kyles & Kyles Plumbing and Home Improvement services
we see things as they could be, not as they are, and we strive to bring everyone's vision of how it could be into their Reality, we help customers save money by enabling them to use their own products longer, repairing what has broken, improving what is already there, or if need be, installing a mo...Read more about Kyles & Kyles Plumbing and Home Improvement services
Porch Pro Headshot Integrity Drywall Repair Services, LLC
Painters
Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
(108)
"We needed work done in several rooms of our home. Dan came out and gave us a fair estimate with a good timeline. He was a man of his word, his work was superb and he completed the job a week sooner then expected. We will definitely use Integrity Drywall for any future projects."
"We needed work done in several rooms of our home. Dan came out and gave us a fair estimate with a good timeline. He was a man of his word, his work was superb and he completed the job a week sooner then expected. We will definitely use Integrity Drywall for any future projects."
Porch Pro Headshot Style Source Painting and Decorating
Painters
Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
(78)
"I put the request out for what type of work I needed done and Brian replied right away. He was very courteous and polite and answered all my questions. He kept in contact until the job was done (work was being done at my Mom's house) and price was reasonable. I will definitely contact Brian for ot...Read more about Style Source Painting and Decorating
"I put the request out for what type of work I needed done and Brian replied right away. He was very courteous and polite and answered all my questions. He kept in contact until the job was done (work was being done at my Mom's house) and price was reasonable. I will definitely contact Brian for ot...Read more about Style Source Painting and Decorating
Porch Pro Headshot  ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ A Brush Above Painting
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Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
(36)
"They are true professionals. My house is now a beautiful home. They gave me a great price compared to other painters using quality products. Paid attention to details and I am very pleased. I would highly recommend to family and friends."
"They are true professionals. My house is now a beautiful home. They gave me a great price compared to other painters using quality products. Paid attention to details and I am very pleased. I would highly recommend to family and friends."
Porch Pro Headshot Five Star Contracting
Painters
Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
(18)
"My project was to paint and repair the exterior of my home. These guys were very quick to follow up after my in initial post on Porch.com. They came out assessed the home, were very quick getting back to me with a quote and we're done painting in three days. Very impressed with the quality of work,...Read more about Five Star Contracting
"My project was to paint and repair the exterior of my home. These guys were very quick to follow up after my in initial post on Porch.com. They came out assessed the home, were very quick getting back to me with a quote and we're done painting in three days. Very impressed with the quality of work,...Read more about Five Star Contracting
Porch Pro Headshot Lakes Home Improvements
Painters
Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
(26)
I'm Jessica, and I take every project personally! We've been family owned and operated since I founded the company in 2009 and our growth has come from our willingness to go the extra mile whenever and wherever needed. Each member of our team is a true gem that we searched long and hard for - we n...Read more about Lakes Home Improvements
I'm Jessica, and I take every project personally! We've been family owned and operated since I founded the company in 2009 and our growth has come from our willingness to go the extra mile whenever and wherever needed. Each member of our team is a true gem that we searched long and hard for - we n...Read more about Lakes Home Improvements
Porch Pro Headshot Maintenance Mike
Painters
Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
(11)
Maintenance Mike was developed from the demand of customer service and skills. The years of working in a luxury customer service resort area in California gave him the understanding to anticipate the customers needs.
Maintenance Mike was developed from the demand of customer service and skills. The years of working in a luxury customer service resort area in California gave him the understanding to anticipate the customers needs.
Porch Pro Headshot Ann Arbor Painting
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Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
(7)
If you need superior painting completed on schedule and with peace of mind, look no further than Ann Arbor Painting. We are a team of friendly, experienced professional painters that serve Ann Arbor and the surrounding areas. We specialize in interior and exterior residential painting and carpentr...Read more about Ann Arbor Painting
If you need superior painting completed on schedule and with peace of mind, look no further than Ann Arbor Painting. We are a team of friendly, experienced professional painters that serve Ann Arbor and the surrounding areas. We specialize in interior and exterior residential painting and carpentr...Read more about Ann Arbor Painting

Frequently asked questions about house painters

There is nothing like a fresh coat of paint in a new home. You can transform rooms with a change of color, and fresh paint breathes new life into an older home. Costs for painting homes vary. It depends on the rate of labor and on the type of paint you use. Most of the cost comes from the size of the home. The more square footage you need painted, the more expensive the job will be.

The average cost for painter services in a home is estimated at $3,500. On the low side, you can expect to pay $1,200 and $6,500 on the high side. These estimates assume you have a one-story home with around 1,000 square feet of wall to paint. More stories will mean higher costs.

The price is usually divided up into materials and labor. Labor tends to make up 85% of a job, but this can vary depending on the contractor. Most contractors charge between $2 - $6 / square foot. This calculates interior painting jobs with two coats of paint. For more specific paint jobs, such as doors or cabinets, you can expect to be charged $50 - $100 / door or drawer face.

Some contractors have different models of payment, which you may discover when looking up “painting companies near me” or “house painters near me.” You can be charged per room, which averages around $800 - $1,200 for a bedroom, and as high as $3,000 for a living room or similar large space. Some painters may choose to bill hourly, which can range from $20 - $50 / hour for basic painting, and $100 / hour or higher for specialty painting. A skilled painter should be able to cover between 150 – 350 square feet/hour but don’t forget to factor in prep time, clean up, and both coats of paint needed.

The cost of painting a home's exterior is far more variable, depending on your siding. Some sidings (like stucco) can cost up to $3,000 / 1,000 square feet, and that cost can rise if there are multiple stories. Weather can also play a major factor, which is why local painters are in high demand during the summer months. Vinyl siding expands and contracts depending on weather, so you’ll want a latex-based paint that is durable to these changes. For wood siding, latex is always a good option for allowing wood to breathe. Beware acrylic or oil-based paints, as these can create moisture stains. If you have stucco siding, you can go with latex, but it’s not your best option if the walls are damaged. Elastomeric paint will cover those imperfections while still being breathable. This paint is thick and time-consuming to apply. If you have brick siding, you’ll want a porous stain or paint so water doesn’t get trapped inside.

Siding is the biggest factor to cost, as prep and materials needed to do the job correctly can raise the price. Brick and stucco are the most expensive, while metal, wood, vinyl, and concrete tend to be on the lower end. Extra stories mean extra work for the painter, as safety measures and ladders need to be implemented. Painting a second or third story of a home takes longer than painting a single story based on logistics. It’s not just the walls, either. You may want to paint the garage, the shutters, the eaves and downspouts, and the siding and trim.

Your brand of paint can alter costs, as well as the cost of your finish. Flat paint tends to be the cheapest, but is also the least durable. Mid-range finishes, including eggshell and satin, can be good choices, depending on what you’re looking for. Semi-gloss finish will showcase imperfections and dents but is also resistant to cleaning. High-gloss is the most expensive type of finish and is recommended for small areas, such as trim, windows, and doors. While it is possible to DIY your home’s exterior, a professional comes with all the needed materials and is knowledgeable about what will work best and how to stay safe on the job. They are worth serious consideration.

Yes, you can paint vinyl siding. Years ago, this answer was no because paint continued to slide off the siding. We’ve come a long way since then. The best paint for vinyl is latex urethane paint, as it can cope with the constant contracting and expanding of the siding. Many paint companies create paint specifically designed for siding.

Painting vinyl is similar to painting other exteriors. You’ll want to coat it with primer (something designed for vinyl) and use a brush for the tricky spots. Otherwise, you can use a roller and cover a lot of ground. Once you have the primer, add the topcoat. Vinyl has one more caveat that you should be aware of. Dark colors tend to trap a lot of heat. Most vinyl paints will be light colors as a result, so it reflects heat rather than absorbs it. Weather can be a factor in painting vinyl, and the best weather is overcast, comfortable conditions. Sun, humidity, direct heat, and wind are not your friends when it comes to painting vinyl. You’ll want to ensure that painting your siding doesn’t void its warranty before you begin.

As with any painting, you’ll want to ensure you clean the area thoroughly first. For vinyl, a pressure washer is the best choice. You’ll want to find a recipe that tackles mold and mildew or buy a TSP solution. Mold and mildew tend to get between the paint and the siding, so it’s imperative you deal with them before you paint.

The quick answer is 350 – 400 square feet. This is generally true of wall, ceiling, and trim paint. Primer tends to go less, giving you 250 square feet on average. If you’re painting a dark room with a light color, you may need more primer coats, so keep that in mind. Be aware that fresh drywall is extremely porous and may absorb more paint than expected. Most drywall tends to arrive pre-primed, but be ready if it isn’t. If you have a textured wall (think popcorn ceilings, for example), you should use 20% more paint. If you need to paint 100 square feet of ceiling, it’s recommended you buy enough paint to cover 120 square feet to make up for the texture. You can stretch your paint with the correct tools. A nine-inch roller usually gives the best results for a coat of paint. For textured walls, consider a 1/2-inch nap over a 3/8-inch nap.

Let’s dive into the math. You know how much paint you need per square foot, but how do you calculate that square footage? First, measure the height of every wall, and add it together. Then, do the same for the length of each wall. Multiply those two numbers together, and you have the square footage. If you divide that number by 400 (how much a gallon of paint should cover), you know how many gallons you need to buy. This works for trim and doors as well. Multiply the total lengths and widths together, and divide it by 400. It’s never a bad idea to round up or ensure you have extra paint left over. You may need it for touch-ups or if a specific section requires more paint than you anticipated. It’s better to have too much than too little and have the hardware store mix you more paint. What if the color is off by even a slight bit? That’s a frustration you can easily avoid.

No, you can’t use exterior paint inside. Exterior paint is designed to hold up against weather extremes and, as such, contains more VOCs (Volatile Organic Compounds). These compounds were not designed for enclosed spaces; they can smell funky and release toxins that might make you or your pets sick. Exterior paint doesn’t settle in a short amount of time. In cold weather, exterior paint could continually release those toxins for a month or more. In warmer weather, this timeframe may be reduced to weeks. The process of releasing these toxins is called curing. Most professionals will wear masks when painting outside for this reason.

Exterior paint is softer by nature. It needs to be able to breathe and contract or expand with the home. It doesn’t stand up as well to the wear and tear that interior paint deals with on a daily basis. While all paint contains mildewcides and fungicides, the ingredients in exterior and interior paint are very different. The VOCs are needed in both paints to hold the pigment in. If you use exterior paint on indoor surfaces, ventilation is your first concern. This becomes a greater concern when spraying paint instead of rolling it, as spraying it makes it airborne that much quicker.

VOCs can cause lightheadedness, headaches, nausea, irritated eyes and throat, and respiratory issues. This can be an even greater hazard for those with compromised immune systems. Exterior and interior paints are vastly different, so you shouldn’t combine them. It compromises the quality of both paints. Plus, exterior paint isn’t designed to look good inside. Both varieties of paint are highly specialized, and you’ll likely regret using them where they are not intended.

The average cost to paint a 12x12 room is $650, with $400 being on the low end and $900 on the high end. Several factors can change these costs or cause them to rise. If you need drywall or plaster repaired before the job, that will cost time and effort. The higher your walls rise, the more time or paint it might take to finish the job. If you want to use designer paints, you may spend more on the materials. Your cost will also change based on the finish you choose.

Square footage is the most important consideration when factoring the price of a room. A large room, such as a living room, will cost more than a small bedroom or bathroom. Kitchens tend to cost the most since the painting is specific. They require far more attention to detail when you consider backsplashes, cabinets, and trims. Textured walls can add to that cost since it eats up more materials. Different types of paint can change the cost as well. On average, eggshell, satin, and flat are the cheapest paints. Matte, semi-gloss, latex, and oil are mid-range and all competitively priced. High-gloss paint is expensive and best used on small surfaces like trims.

You have the option to do the work yourself, of course. Be aware that it’s never as simple as splashing paint on the walls. You’ll need to purchase all the required materials, such as brushes, painter’s tape, rollers, trays, and plastic to prevent spillage. You’ll need to clean the walls and remove outlet covers and switch plates. Once that’s done, you can use painter’s tape on all the edges and then start. The big question you will need to ask yourself is whether you have the time. Painters are efficient, have all the tools, and do the job constantly. They will know immediately the best way to handle it.

Now that you know the scope of your project in terms of cost and effort, you can start dreaming in color.

Recent reviews for Whitmore Lake Painters

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Professional from sales team to crew!

- Brian Eichhorn
205555

RUN RUN RUN From This Contractor!!! I had Acoustic Ceiling Removed from my Ceiling By Brian Eichhorn And His Crew And My walls Were Ruined in the process Because they DID NOT PREP THE WALLS PROPERLY. My vaulted Ceilings Should Have been Securely TAPED Fro...

- Joy Motes
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We are very happy with our experience with Jay's painting. We had the entire exterior painted including the windows and doors and we couldn't be happier with the result.

- David Webster
80329

Jay's Painting is easy to work with. He is a honest and hard worker and strives to make sure you are satisfied with the project. He did a Large Siding and Whole house painting. I will be calling Jay's back for my other projects.

- Karl R
16487

Ann Arbor Painting is pure painting PERFECTION!!!! My home is absolutely beautiful now...we are so happy with the results. They are prompt, professional, clean and continue to follow up with me to ensure my happiness with the results. I will definitel...

- Margaret Sims
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Mike and the crew did such a nice job. Fast, reasonable and the clean up was great. I highly recommend.

- Louis Manns
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I wanted to write a review and tell my experience with A Brush Above Painting. Mike and the crew did a great painting job for our family. They were friendly and paid special attention to our dogs, which we really appreciated. Mike helped with color choi...

- Diana Stoyanavitch
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Wow it took me a lot of research to find you Mike. Do not hire, run away, biggest scam artist, he goes by another company called prep rite painting, check his reviews on yelp and you will see how many people Michael Kennedy has scammed. I am grateful that...

- Christina Azzi
419301

This company goes above and beyond what regular contractors do, They pay attention to detail and make sure you are completed satisfied. Price is very competitive and I highly recommend to anyone in need of a true professional painter

- Jim Culberts
476550

Mike and his team rock ! I couldn't be happier with my project. Thank you Mike and team I look forward to seeing you in the spring for my outside of my house.

- Claudia Wilson
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My husband and I decided to paint our house, we went to Lowe's and was told about Porch website. We found A Brush Above Painting on here. They came out and gave us an estimate and we decided to use them right then. They worked around our busy schedule ...

- Macy Luna
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I hired A Brush Above through Porch and could not be more pleased. They did an excellent job and were on time every day, something I did not experience with my other contractors. This team paid attention to detail and made sure that I was completely sat...

- Elizabeth Greer

Everything You Need to Know About Whitmore Lake House Painters

Painting Services isn’t exactly what I’m looking for. Are there more specific services similar to painters available in Whitmore Lake?

If you’ve determined that painting services are not quite what you were looking for, or if you had a specific project in mind that is similar to painting services, we can still help you find the right professional in Whitmore Lake.

Whitmore Lake has 50 painter professionals that can help you with your painting services job. Head to our Pros Page to find specific painters-pros in Whitmore Lake.

How do I know I am getting a fair price for Painting Services work in Whitmore Lake?

Every Painting Services job has different requirements. Remember that the price will differ depending on the scope of your project. However, that doesn't mean you have to go in blind. Check out our tips for getting a fair price for Whitmore Lake work from Paintersbelow:

  • Talk to a few different Painters and ask for quotes to compare. We have around 50 professionals and companies in Whitmore Lake for you to compare.
  • Before contacting a company, check out the ratings and reviews from previous customers to learn what others have paid, how long the Painters took on the job, and how satisfied they were.

How many painters does Whitmore Lake have?

There are around 50 companies throughout Whitmore Lake to help you with your next painting services job.

  • 3 of them have an A or A+ rating from Better Business Bureau.

All House Painters in Whitmore Lake, MI

Porch Pro Headshot Jay's Painting
Painters
Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
(5)
I have 18 years of experience painting 10 in the painters union and for the last 8 years painting mostly residential homes. I also have a background in siding and roofing. We offer quality interior/exterior commercial/residential painting, roofing, siding, and gutters. Our goal is to leave you happy...Read more about Jay's Painting
I have 18 years of experience painting 10 in the painters union and for the last 8 years painting mostly residential homes. I also have a background in siding and roofing. We offer quality interior/exterior commercial/residential painting, roofing, siding, and gutters. Our goal is to leave you happy...Read more about Jay's Painting
Porch Pro Headshot Lane Custom Painting
Painters
Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
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Lane Custom Painting is a full service painting company. We do anything from small interior jobs such as a painting a bedroom to large exterior jobs.
Lane Custom Painting is a full service painting company. We do anything from small interior jobs such as a painting a bedroom to large exterior jobs.
Porch Pro Headshot Five Lakes Power Washing, LLC
Painters
Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
Five lakes power washing is committed to providing professional and efficient cleaning solutions to our client base. We believe in producing high-quality results at a competitive rate. We focus on our clients individual needs and hold ourselves accountable for their full satisfaction. We are an in...Read more about Five Lakes Power Washing, LLC
Five lakes power washing is committed to providing professional and efficient cleaning solutions to our client base. We believe in producing high-quality results at a competitive rate. We focus on our clients individual needs and hold ourselves accountable for their full satisfaction. We are an in...Read more about Five Lakes Power Washing, LLC
Porch Pro Headshot March Brothers
Painters
Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
(13)
"Hired March Brothers to install 6ft. primacy fence on my side yard. Work was accomplished in a timely fashion & very professional done. The couple of small changes made were explained to me & were quite logical. Charles was exceptional in keeping me informed with phone calls and texts. I definite...Read more about March Brothers
"Hired March Brothers to install 6ft. primacy fence on my side yard. Work was accomplished in a timely fashion & very professional done. The couple of small changes made were explained to me & were quite logical. Charles was exceptional in keeping me informed with phone calls and texts. I definite...Read more about March Brothers
Porch Pro Headshot Ardelean & Sons Construction  989-666-3372
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Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
(7)
"Bruce was very courteous and professional business person. Very detail and honest regarding the price for the project. I will be referring my neighbors to your business for their home improvements repairs!! Thank you for striving for excellence in your business!"
"Bruce was very courteous and professional business person. Very detail and honest regarding the price for the project. I will be referring my neighbors to your business for their home improvements repairs!! Thank you for striving for excellence in your business!"
Porch Pro Headshot Pro Nino's Painting & Remodeling
Painters
Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
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Looking for a reliable painting company to help bring your home or business to life? Look no further than Pro Nino's Painting! Our team of expert painters is dedicated to providing top-quality interior and exterior painting services at an affordable price. Whether you're in need of a fresh coat of p...Read more about Pro Nino's Painting & Remodeling
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Looking for a reliable painting company to help bring your home or business to life? Look no further than Pro Nino's Painting! Our team of expert painters is dedicated to providing top-quality interior and exterior painting services at an affordable price. Whether you're in need of a fresh coat of p...Read more about Pro Nino's Painting & Remodeling
Porch Pro Headshot Certa Pro Painters of Novi
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Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
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CertaPro Painters is a full Service professional painting company for both interior, exterior serving both Residential & Commercial customers. We specialize in quality workmanship beginning with our consultative proposals to our quality craftsmanship. You Do Life, We Do Paint!
CertaPro Painters is a full Service professional painting company for both interior, exterior serving both Residential & Commercial customers. We specialize in quality workmanship beginning with our consultative proposals to our quality craftsmanship. You Do Life, We Do Paint!
Porch Pro Headshot Princess Drywall LLC
Painters
Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
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Drawing on over 25 years of professional industry experience, there is virtually no project that our team of extremely experienced technicians and supervisors cannot accomplish. Having previously worked on projects as divergent as residential homes, River City Casino in St. Louis, various Station Lo...Read more about Princess Drywall LLC
Drawing on over 25 years of professional industry experience, there is virtually no project that our team of extremely experienced technicians and supervisors cannot accomplish. Having previously worked on projects as divergent as residential homes, River City Casino in St. Louis, various Station Lo...Read more about Princess Drywall LLC
Porch Pro Headshot Good Guys Painting
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Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
Porch Pro Headshot Global Pro Painting
Painters
Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
Global Pro Painting, located in Westland, is a family owned painting company that provides custom painting finish, wood staining, drywall replacement & repair, carpentry, power washing and other services. Our goal is 100% customer satisfaction.They offer senior & Military discounts. Call 734-341-06...Read more about Global Pro Painting
Global Pro Painting, located in Westland, is a family owned painting company that provides custom painting finish, wood staining, drywall replacement & repair, carpentry, power washing and other services. Our goal is 100% customer satisfaction.They offer senior & Military discounts. Call 734-341-06...Read more about Global Pro Painting
Porch Pro Headshot 360 Renovations
Painters
Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
Color your world with help from Paint Stars Painting & Remodeling. We specialize in residential, commercial, and industrial painting solutions, our experts have the experience and equipment to handle any job. Our employees have undergone extensive training and evaluation. We believe we have the gre...Read more about 360 Renovations
Color your world with help from Paint Stars Painting & Remodeling. We specialize in residential, commercial, and industrial painting solutions, our experts have the experience and equipment to handle any job. Our employees have undergone extensive training and evaluation. We believe we have the gre...Read more about 360 Renovations
Porch Pro Headshot Affordable Painting
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Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
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Porch Pro Headshot Diedrich Painting
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Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan
Porch Pro Headshot Creary construction and painting
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Serves Whitmore Lake, Michigan

Latest projects near Whitmore Lake

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South Lyon 48178
Fence and Outdoor Structure Painting
Start Date
Within a month
Painting location area
Outside
What needs to be painted
Deck, patio or porch
Painted item
Deck
SQFT of painted area
300-500 sq. ft.
Painted material
Wood
Has structure previously been painted
Yes
Already purchased paint
No, but I know what I want
South Lyon 48178
Drywall Installation
Start Date
Within a year
Project type
Install drywall where none exists
Rooms to install drywall
Kitchen, Bathroom
Surfaces to drywall
Walls and ceilings
Who will provide materials
I will provide materials, just need installation
South Lyon 48178
Drywall Texturing
Start Date
Within a week
Project type
Texture or finish drywall
Rooms needing drywall texturing
Bedroom, Entry or hallway, Living room, family room, or entertainment room
Surfaces
Both walls and ceilings
Desired texture
Smooth finish (prep for wall paper)
Any work above 15ft
No
Who will purchase materials
I will provide materials, just need installation